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16ycfcjosh
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 10:33 pm    Post subject: Foreign players in England. Reply with quote

I was looking at the players signed in the January transfer window earlier and again it seems as though managers, particularly in the Premiership have opted to go for a foreign player instead of buying an English player or developing the youth talent. And you may say “what youth talent?” but there are lots of quality English players being released who are just as good as the over played foreign mercenaries who don’t care about the shirt.

Basically this thread is about ‘are foreign players hampering England’s chances of success on a world stage?’ To be honest I don’t think at the moment they are as much as they will in a few years when it isn’t uncommon for teams to field a total none English line up. Soon the best English players will be playing at the bottom of the Premiership or in the Championship which isn’t the way forward for England as a nation. I think the way to get around it is slowly introducing foreign player limits to match squads, of course it would be unfair on the likes of Arsenal and Bolton if suddenly you could only play with 9 foreigners but eventually I think it should end up going that way. Don’t get me wrong, players like Zola and Henry have been great for English football and it’s nice to have the best players in the world playing in our country. But I think it’s gone to far now when you have clubs like Portsmouth spending on useless foreign players when they should be developing decent youth players.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 10:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Portsmouth have about 3 English Players in there entire first-team squad, and look where they are...

Suppose Arsenal invested in Walcott, but I think it will take him years to make it in the Premiership.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 10:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Josho wrote:
Portsmouth have about 3 English Players in there entire first-team squad, and look where they are...

Suppose Arsenal invested in Walcott, but I think it will take him years to make it in the Premiership.


I just hope he's given a chance in the first team this year instead of being left in the reserves to be forgotten.

One thing you can't accuse Arsenal of is not developing youth at all, look at Fabregas and Senderos. 2 valuable squad members now.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 10:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

16ycfcjosh wrote:
Josho wrote:
Portsmouth have about 3 English Players in there entire first-team squad, and look where they are...

Suppose Arsenal invested in Walcott, but I think it will take him years to make it in the Premiership.


I just hope he's given a chance in the first team this year instead of being left in the reserves to be forgotten.

One thing you can't accuse Arsenal of is not developing youth at all, look at Fabregas and Senderos. 2 valuable squad members now.


Although Senderos is a good squad player, he is prone to make mistakes...

Look at against Doncaster, even I would never have done that!
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 10:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Josho wrote:
16ycfcjosh wrote:
Josho wrote:
Portsmouth have about 3 English Players in there entire first-team squad, and look where they are...

Suppose Arsenal invested in Walcott, but I think it will take him years to make it in the Premiership.


I just hope he's given a chance in the first team this year instead of being left in the reserves to be forgotten.

One thing you can't accuse Arsenal of is not developing youth at all, look at Fabregas and Senderos. 2 valuable squad members now.


Although Senderos is a good squad player, he is prone to make mistakes...

Look at against Doncaster, even I would never have done that!


Yeah, it's good they are giving him a chance though instead of buying another Cygan.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 10:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Senderos is rubbish

And Febregas and the rest of the Arsenal team are far too powderpuff, need some prescence in midfield.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 10:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with your idea Josh about imposing a limit on the number of foreign players in the squad.

They do similar things across Europe, notably in Italy, where there is a rule that you can only sign a certain number of foreign players each season.

In Portugal, you have to have a certain amount of homegrown talent from your own clubs youth system, and a certain number of Portuguese in your squad for the season.

Both are good policies, and I'd like to see them implemented over here at some stage in the near future. It would certainly decrease Chelsea's dominance, and would force teams to concentrate more on youth policies.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 10:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tommihird wrote:
I agree with your idea Josh about imposing a limit on the number of foreign players in the squad.

They do similar things across Europe, notably in Italy, where there is a rule that you can only sign a certain number of foreign players each season.

In Portugal, you have to have a certain amount of homegrown talent from your own clubs youth system, and a certain number of Portuguese in your squad for the season.

Both are good policies, and I'd like to see them implemented over here at some stage in the near future. It would certainly decrease Chelsea's dominance, and would force teams to concentrate more on youth policies.


I expect Chelsea would just pay extortinate amounts for more English players was that ever to come into place.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 10:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tommihird wrote:
I agree with your idea Josh about imposing a limit on the number of foreign players in the squad.

They do similar things across Europe, notably in Italy, where there is a rule that you can only sign a certain number of foreign players each season.

In Portugal, you have to have a certain amount of homegrown talent from your own clubs youth system, and a certain number of Portuguese in your squad for the season.



Yeah exactly! I don't think it would really weaken Premiership teams either.

You often see players released from top flight clubs early on, signed by lower league teams who later sell them back to big clubs because they realised they are actually half decent players!
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 11:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LA Metros Hockey Player wrote:

I expect Chelsea would just pay extortinate amounts for more English players was that ever to come into place.


Well then perhaps that's better...as it will share some of the wealth down to other clubs who are putting the money into developing the talent in the first place?
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 7:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tommihird wrote:
LA Metros Hockey Player wrote:

I expect Chelsea would just pay extortinate amounts for more English players was that ever to come into place.


Well then perhaps that's better...as it will share some of the wealth down to other clubs who are putting the money into developing the talent in the first place?


The Premiership teams will have to buy from lower league teams, but then there is a problem of all the talent being poached...
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