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Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 12:17 am Post subject: Celtic v AC Milan |
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I don't know if there has been a thread on this already. Apologies if there has.
Most of us will have seen the incident when the youth ran on the pitch after the winner was scored. I think we all agree that this is unacceptable but what about Dida?!! Should he face punishment?
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Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 5:58 am Post subject: |
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Just the punishment he would face for the offence of running on the pitch, as realistically that's all he's guilty of. Any criminal proceedings relating to affray/assault should not take place, as TV pictures show this not to have happened.
He shouldn't have run on the the playing area, (I understand the passion of last minute winner etc) - It's an offence - but that should be the end of it. |
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Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 7:40 am Post subject: |
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If I was the lad I would be kicking myself, He had run on the pitch so was screwed anyway, Might aswell have chinned him and done something worthwhile whilst he was at it. |
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Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 8:12 am Post subject: Re: Celtic v AC Milan |
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BirminghamMinsterman wrote: |
but what about Dida?!! Should he face punishment? |
As I heard it, the lad who ran on the pitch was actually from Vulcan- the planet popularised in Star Trek by the loveable Mr Spock. What you might not have noticed, is that 'little slap' was actually the Vulcan death grip. Whilst Dida was able to take a couple of steps after him, he soon felt the effects and- in all honesty- is lucky to still be alive.
Either that, or he's a dirty cheating cnut and should be punished for, at the very least, taking a dive which the ref didn't punish at the time. In my opinion, this was worse than a dive- which would normally be taken to win a free kick/penalty. This was a dive with the intention of getting the game called off, which is very serious- and could perhaps even be considered match fixing. If the powers that be saw it that way, then I'd imagine there'd be a very severe punishment in store for Dida
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Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 9:10 am Post subject: |
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You can't have people running on the pitch, end of story. And you also can't have people pretending they have been seriously assaulted when they haven't. In the real world, if you pretended you had been seriously physically assaulted when you hadn't you'd be done for wasting police time and perhaps even for malicious intent.
What I don't understand about this Dida bloke is that he must of known that TV cameras had filmed the incident and so must have known he wouldn't get away with it. |
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Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 9:17 am Post subject: |
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Jards wrote: |
What I don't understand about this Dida bloke is that he must of known that TV cameras had filmed the incident and so must have known he wouldn't get away with it. |
But footballers are stupid.
I won't limit it to footballers though, having watched that Wigan player Hock perform some kind of wrestling move on Matt Diskin on Friday night, only to have it not only replayed to everyone watching on Sky Sports, but to the whole of Headingley Stadium. Multiple times. What an idiot.
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Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 9:56 am Post subject: |
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OI! Good tackle that was Helen Not Hocks fault diskin is a little s***house midget. Clearly wasnt that bad as he didnt even get put on report IIRC? |
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Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 10:16 am Post subject: |
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OI! Good tackle that was Helen Not Hocks fault diskin is a little s***house midget. Clearly wasnt that bad as he didnt even get put on report IIRC? |
He did get put on report and has now been charged and is facing a disciplinary committee.
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Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 10:43 am Post subject: |
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Jards wrote: |
You can't have people running on the pitch, end of story. And you also can't have people pretending they have been seriously assaulted when they haven't. In the real world, if you pretended you had been seriously physically assaulted when you hadn't you'd be done for wasting police time and perhaps even for malicious intent.
What I don't understand about this Dida bloke is that he must of known that TV cameras had filmed the incident and so must have known he wouldn't get away with it. |
This is disgusting Phil.
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Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 10:45 am Post subject: |
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f***ing hell where was I! Still A good effort mind.
Thats the one thing I hate about video replay. get cited for the slightest thing these days. In the amateur game knowing you have smashed someone can change a game. To smash someone you generally hurt them, To hurt them you generally have to go a little high 
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Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 11:24 am Post subject: |
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f***ing hell where was I! Still A good effort mind.
Thats the one thing I hate about video replay. get cited for the slightest thing these days. In the amateur game knowing you have smashed someone can change a game. To smash someone you generally hurt them, To hurt them you generally have to go a little high 
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Having played the game for a number of years i allways found that you got more hurt while you were on the ground (stray elbows, fists and knees) than you did from a high tackle. And in the amature game the refs generally did not see it happen.
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Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 12:23 pm Post subject: |
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Ive had 3 broken noses, Concussed 3 times and smashed my knee ligaments in what started as a high tackle, Oh and had 3 stitches in my head on the side of the pitch from a high tackle. The better standard of amatuer game the better the refs become(Seemingly unlike football), However also the better players become at putting highshots on.
Would you class this as a high shot? Some would some wouldnt, Me, No Chance.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-svlxrSQH9s
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Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 12:44 am Post subject: |
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Helen wrote: |
palfrexm wrote: |
OI! Good tackle that was Helen Not Hocks fault diskin is a little s***house midget. Clearly wasnt that bad as he didnt even get put on report IIRC? |
He did get put on report and has now been charged and is facing a disciplinary committee.
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Hock got charged £500 and two game ban which means he misses one of the Wigan Pre season friendlies and the first game of the 2008 Super League season.
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Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 8:39 am Post subject: |
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KEWELL10 wrote: |
Hock got charged £500 and two game ban which means he misses one of the Wigan Pre season friendlies and the first game of the 2008 Super League season. |
Woahhhh there, bet he's regretting it now...
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Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 6:00 pm Post subject: |
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High spirits or not at notching a late winner, the Celtic fan deserves what he gets, basically for encroaching the playing area as the game was technically still in progress and fronting up to a player. Dida's reaction was farcical. On seeing him collapse after turning and running towards the encroacher, I guessed he'd been struck by something thrown from the crowd (which was on his LEFT side as he fell to the floor). But when he was being stretchered off, he put the icepack to the RIGHT side of his face/neck. It can only have been total over-reaction from the light 'tap' he received.
In that instant, he became just as big a pr*ck as the Celtic fan.
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Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 6:11 pm Post subject: |
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Milan, when they're not fixing matches, the players are throwing themselves around 
Apparently both Dida and Milan are going to face fines, and Dida maybe even a suspension for his unsporting behaviour'.
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Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 11:27 am Post subject: |
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OI! Good tackle that was Helen Not Hocks fault diskin is a little s***house midget. Clearly wasnt that bad as he didnt even get put on report IIRC?
He did get put on report and has now been charged and is facing a disciplinary committee.
Hock got charged £500 and two game ban which means he misses one of the Wigan Pre season friendlies and the first game of the 2008 Super League season |
I stand corrected! still a good tackle mind.
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Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 11:29 am Post subject: |
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KEWELL10 wrote: |
Hock got charged £500 and two game ban which means he misses one of the Wigan Pre season friendlies and the first game of the 2008 Super League season. |
PSF don't count so he'll miss the 1st 2 Super League. If he was fit and in the GB Squad he would off missed the 1st 2 tests.
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Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 11:43 am Post subject: |
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palfrexm wrote: |
I stand corrected! still a good tackle mind. |
It's not really a tackle if both players are miles away from the ball, is it.
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Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 12:23 pm Post subject: |
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Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 5:39 pm Post subject: |
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/europe/7034017.stm
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Absolutely no deterrent in that joke of a fine ! Celtic would have made £12,500 on selling pies on the night so it's simply chump change to them.
Whatever Dida did (and he should have been banned - big p**sy that he is ! ) it doesn't detract from the fact that a supporter got on the pitch and was able to lay hands on a player before being helped back into the crowd by a steward !
At that price, it's almost worth doing it again ... 
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Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 7:35 pm Post subject: |
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Just a relief that their future games are not behind closed doors. |
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Jards wrote: |
Just a relief that their future games are not behind closed doors. |
Napoli fans aren't allowed to travel to some games this season because some fans threw bottles on the pitch.
If the Celtic incident had happened anywhere else outside the UK, everyone would have been calling for them to be thrown out of the competition.
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Hopefully he'll be on the transfer list come January.
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The keeper looked a right tool but apart from that I can't see why this kind of 'simulation' is any different to what we see almost every day in football, why ban him when they don't ban Drogba?
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The keeper looked a right tool but apart from that I can't see why this kind of 'simulation' is any different to what we see almost every day in football, why ban him when they don't ban Drogba? |
Bang on. I don't see how banning Dida is going to help anything. What did they want him to do, keep running and hammer the daft twit?
It's double standards. People think English clubs get a raw deal with UEFA but if they look outside their xenophobic paranoia they'll see what the situation is really like.
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The main difference, to me, is that Dida's complete overreaction could have caused a lot more trouble than a Drogba dive winning Chelsea a penalty. For starters, it could have sparked a mass riot, people knew he was faking it, one person had already ran on the pitch, him doing that wasn't going to calm anything down and could well have lead to much worse (we all know what the Scots are like ).
There's also the fact that his over reaction could well have seen Celtic docked points, match abandonment, etc etc. A little more than a freekick/penalty.
I'm not agreeing with the punishment on Dida, they're just reasons, I do feel the Celtic punishment is about right though.
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Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 5:23 am Post subject: |
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Woody Wilson wrote: |
The main difference, to me, is that Dida's complete overreaction could have caused a lot more trouble than a Drogba dive winning Chelsea a penalty. For starters, it could have sparked a mass riot, people knew he was faking it, one person had already ran on the pitch, him doing that wasn't going to calm anything down and could well have lead to much worse (we all know what the Scots are like ).
There's also the fact that his over reaction could well have seen Celtic docked points, match abandonment, etc etc. A little more than a freekick/penalty.
I'm not agreeing with the punishment on Dida, they're just reasons, I do feel the Celtic punishment is about right though. |
Last season when Liverpool played Sheff Utd Liverpool won with a penalty it was shown afterwards that Gerrard had dived, Liverpool went into the Champions League and Sheff Utd were relegated, without that goal Liverpool woulsd have been in the UEFA cup and Sheffield still in the Prem, no action was taken against Gerrard, nor wasn it even suggested.
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I don't know why everyone is having a go at Dida, I thought that song she did that was sampled by Eminem was quite good and she's quite fit....
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