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Willincity
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 Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 9:37 pm Post subject: Dowie asked to leave by Charlton |
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12 games out of 38, and just a third of the season gone,
just shows how the need to stay in the premiership is massive..
Is this a brave decision by the Charlton board, but one that probably was needed because of this fear of relegation, is it this that kicks boards into making very short term, knee jerk decision?
......Ironically Charlton were always being complimented on their shrewedness on giving Curbs plenty of time to get things right, now will he be invited to return?
TBH I thought Dowie was shaping up to be a decent manager ......poor lad will have to make do with a couple of million pound pay off.
Just O/T some what
I have always given Charlton house room because of Sam Bartram’s managerial connection with City some years back as well as an end of season testimonial he arranged in 1959 for long serving City defender Percy Andrews.
It was a City team v All star XI, over 11,000 turned out that night (our average gate that season was about 9 to 10000)
The actual game saw the All Stars play a Scottish wing half called William Shankley and left winger Charlie Mitten plus a host of CAFC players.
I think it was 5-4 to City but I remember Norman Wilkinson scoring one and Peter Wragg hitting a 30 year screamer but the highlight of the night was Billy Fentons goal that would have been a credit to Stan Mathews.
Sorry about that, just a flash back to CAFC connections with City.
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Frid
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| Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 10:03 pm Post subject: |
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WOW. I knew it was going to happen but i didnt know it was going to happen so quickly.
Dowie is as sh*t a manager as he was a player in my opinion. He's cocked that club up good and proper.
Roeder next, Pearce shortly after with Pardew to follow?? 
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Dave C
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| Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 10:41 pm Post subject: |
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Inclined to think there's something more than just football behind this one.
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The Moleman
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| Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 11:37 pm Post subject: |
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| Dave C wrote: |
| Inclined to think there's something more than just football behind this one. |
Maybe so, but the football did not help matters! I've seen them on TV this season and thought they were dire. Not a huge surprise.
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Janesy
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any chance of Newcastle following suit, we're supposed to be a sleeping giant  Get us Sam Allardyce and install a bit of passion into the geordies.
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Willincity
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Charlton Club chairman Richard Murray said in a statement:
"Over the past two weeks we have conducted a review of the structure we put in place during the summer which involved all senior football management staff. The results of this review have, we believe, left us with little option but to act in the manner we have."
Fair enough I guess, sticking to their game plan.
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Reg Hedge
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| Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 1:54 pm Post subject: |
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| Frid wrote: |
| Dowie is as sh*t a manager as he was a player in my opinion. He's cocked that club up good and proper. |
Harsh. He did well at Oldham; their fans were distraught that he left to go to Palace, which only happened because Oldham went into administration. He then took Palace up in his first season, and although they dropped back down, they did reach the playoffs again last season before he left for Charlton.
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On a similar theme, I see Billy has a few words to say today on the same general subject....
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YORK City boss Billy McEwan has called for all football clubs to show more patience before getting rid of their managers.
Some 16 Championship clubs have changed manager since the end of last season.
Those managerial upheavals continued last night when Iain Dowie left Premiership strugglers Charlton after only 15 games in charge.
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High-profile names such as Paul Hart, Frank Gray and John Hollins have also lost their jobs at Conference level and McEwan feels it is time for the situation to stop.
Hart and Gray were only appointed in their respective jobs at Rushden and Diamonds and Grays Athletic this summer.
City, meanwhile, have enjoyed an upturn in their fortunes during the 21 months of McEwan's reign and the forthright Scotsman believes club owners should value continuity ahead of short-term fixes.
He said: "It's ridiculous that 16 Championship clubs have changed their managers since last season. All these clubs think sacking the manager is the only answer, but then why did they appoint them in the first place?
"This is not a new phenomenon however. It has been going on for years.
"Bruce Rioch was once sacked a week before the start of the season.
"I think you've really got to stick by them through thick and thin and give them time. I said when I came to York that it would take three or four years to sort the club out on the playing side and I never expected to get promotion in the first year.
"Some clubs think there is a magic formula and chop and change the manager to find it, but the only magic formula is hard work with good people you can trust.
"Frank Gray lost his job at Grays last month after they got knocked out of the cup. Is he a bad manager because he lost a cup match?
"Look at Sir Alex Ferguson - on that logic, he should be out of a job because they lost to Southend. It's only because he's got 20 years experience at Man United that they can't get rid of him." |
I'd probably tend to agree to a point. Although have York been guilty in the past of TOO MUCH loyalty?
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Woody Wilson
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Could see it coming, but a little unfair to me. At the end of the day, he was succeeding a manager that had been at Charlton for 15 years. I think it's always going to take more than 5 months to get your managerial style implemented as a mind set at any club after having a manager for that amount of time - no matter who you are.
Even Simon Jordan stuck up for Dowie! 
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| Willincity wrote: |
Charlton Club chairman Richard Murray said in a statement:
"Over the past two weeks we have conducted a review of the structure we put in place during the summer which involved all senior football management staff. The results of this review have, we believe, left us with little option but to act in the manner we have."
Fair enough I guess, sticking to their game plan. |
So basically, they had a review of the structure of their organisation, and decided to indulge in a little streamlining? I hate it when management-speak encroaches on footie. What a bunch of tosh- I'd love it, if one time a board said: 'we've sacked him cos he was sh*t and didn't do as well as we wanted him to do'.
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| I normally couldn't care less about greedy Premiership teams but, given this crap statement I only hope Charlton are not one of them next season |
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