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H'mm dosen't look too good for Great Britain now. I cannot understand why they can prouce heroics against Australia last week and then lose to New Zealand twice.
The first defeat to New Zealand was a little unlucky yet yesterday all they had to do was avoid a heavy defeat and they would be more or Less guaranteed a place in the final but alas no.
Just hope that they can produce a carbon copy of the performance in Sydney next week in Brisbane.
Also a message to the RFL please don't bother the World Cup. It will be a tinpot laughing stock. GB are weak enough without dividing it up between the other home nations that have virtually no interest in RL and in addition to that a load of Tinpot Countries made up of Students will be there to make up the numbers. It will be a loss making disaster just like the last one.
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Is it Netball season again Tony?
And so soon too... 
The farce you allude to makes US "world series" look sane.
I would hazard a guess and say more people play and follow Kabbadi than your "Tri Nations" bobbins...
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The farce you allude to makes US "world series" look sane.
I would hazard a guess and say more people play and follow Kabbadi than your "Tri Nations" bobbins...
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You see you totally miss the point again
International RL is a farce and tbh it ruins what is a good Local Game.
Kabbadi not seen since the ealy 90's on Channel4 which says it all really.
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You just have no sense of anything do you Tony...
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| Kabbadi not seen since the ealy 90's on Channel4 which says it all really. |
Its quite popular round our way actually, the pub runs a team.
5-A-Side Monday
Pool Tuesday
Dominoes Wednesday
Darts Thursday
Kabbadi Friday
Will have to get together sometime to arrange a friendly, dont get much opposition locally so have to travel further afield to find opposition. There is some stigma being in an all white Kabbadi team I can tell thee. 
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Talking of completely pointless, uninteresting entertainment - why is Catherine Tate supposed to be funny? Beady eyed, talentless bag.
Just watched a TEN minute sketch, whose whole gag was based around a Pudsey couple not knowing that Gazpacho soup was SUPPOSED to be cold.
Well forgive me for not wetting myself - but Red Dwarf did this gag about fifteen years ago and it wasn't that hilarious then.
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I thought Pudsey was posh..(well compared with the neighbouring drug infested slums anyway).
I can't believe Kabbadi isn't a much more high profile sport really. With the right sponsors it could be nicely sexed up. After all it is "Kiss Chase with heavy breathing" who wouldn't enjoy a bit of that? 
Maybe Jim can fixit...
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| International RL is a farce and tbh it ruins what is a good Local Game |
That completely backs up how much of an utter clueless c**t you are, How on earth do you justify what you have just said.
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I cannot understand why they can prouce heroics against Australia last week and then lose to New Zealand twice.
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1 Sean Long playing the game of his life
2 No one could have cometed with NZ'd pack in the last game, They would have demolished Aus playing like that.
The fact is tony twostriped that ALL of the GB squad were at amatuer teams as a youth and ALL of these amatuer teams benefit from them coming from there, Through Signed metrchandise/Raffles/Sportsman's dinner's.
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| Also a message to the RFL please don't bother the World Cup. It will be a tinpot laughing stock. GB are weak enough without dividing it up between the other home nations that have virtually no interest in RL and in addition to that a load of Tinpot Countries made up of Students will be there to make up the numbers. It will be a loss making disaster just like the last one. |
GB weak? No they're not. In what positions are they weak, I actually dont think you know what your talking about.
So Mr f***ing anti GB rugby squad, Hows your Rugby skills?
Fancy a game?
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So Mr f***ing anti GB rugby squad, Hows your Rugby skills?
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Don't ask him to backup what he says with evidence. Only the person trying to argue against Tony's views has to provide evidence. That's the law!
PS Kabbadi looks well cool!
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| Don't ask him to backup what he says with evidence. Only the person trying to argue against Tony's views has to provide evidence. That's the law! |
My cock is bigger than Tony's...
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| International RL is a farce and tbh it ruins what is a good Local Game |
That completely backs up how much of an utter clueless c**t you are, How on earth do you justify what you have just said.
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I cannot understand why they can prouce heroics against Australia last week and then lose to New Zealand twice.
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1 Sean Long playing the game of his life
2 No one could have cometed with NZ'd pack in the last game, They would have demolished Aus playing like that.
The fact is tony twostriped that ALL of the GB squad were at amatuer teams as a youth and ALL of these amatuer teams benefit from them coming from there, Through Signed metrchandise/Raffles/Sportsman's dinner's.
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| Also a message to the RFL please don't bother the World Cup. It will be a tinpot laughing stock. GB are weak enough without dividing it up between the other home nations that have virtually no interest in RL and in addition to that a load of Tinpot Countries made up of Students will be there to make up the numbers. It will be a loss making disaster just like the last one. |
GB weak? No they're not. In what positions are they weak, I actually dont think you know what your talking about.
So Mr f***ing anti GB rugby squad, Hows your Rugby skills?
Fancy a game?
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After the last RL discussion related on this board he clearly should that he did not appear to have the knowledge on this sport so i chose to ignore him on this occasion.
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So Mr f***ing anti GB rugby squad, Hows your Rugby skills?
Fancy a game? |
Don't ask him to backup what he says with evidence. Only the person trying to argue against Tony's views has to provide evidence. That's the law!
PS Kabbadi looks well cool!
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Evidence ? The last RL World Cup was held 6 years ago. It made a very small profit because of TV Money but the Crowds were appaling and the fact that we are still waiting for another tournament suggests that the TV Companies will not be as stupid again.
Evidence of a weak GB squad er well how about yesterdays pathetic and feeble performance Love it how everyone gets defensive whenever we lose. This time to a bunch of Sheep Farmers.
Oh and Palfrexm I have played RL. I work in Cas for f**k sake so have to be careful what I say. Yet even the passionate RL fans there accept that the game is ruined by these pointless International Tournaments. Might as well just let one team earn the right to play the Aussies each year.
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The world cup isnt a money making excersise, Its for the exposure of the game you clown. Its a growing sport all over Europe, A world cup is nothing but a chance to give players from 'tinpot'countries a chance to play against good players from other countries and represent their countries.
Why do people lose perspective when GB lose, there are 3.5 good international teams in the world(France rapidly improving) everyone who knows anything about RL knows that. I gather its only you who looks at it in any sort of perspective like that.
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Nah I doubt it. My c*ck back home is a prize winning one.
http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/Pagoda/8849/c*ck.html
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work in Cas, f**k me that means you have played RL all your life?
Panthers or LL then?
People like you are half the reason the Aussies are the best, Pyscological advantage, Its a f***ing disgrace, This country(when it comes to RL) Barely believes we can beat the Aussies, Its apparently a massive shock when we do, Even though I personally think we can at least match them in every department.
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The world cup isnt a money making excersise, Its for the exposure of the game you clown. Its a growing sport all over Europe, A world cup is nothing but a chance to give players from 'tinpot'countries a chance to play against good players from other countries and represent their countries.
Why do people lose perspective when GB lose, there are 3.5 good international teams in the world(France rapidly improving) everyone who knows anything about RL knows that. I gather its only you who looks at it in any sort of perspective like that. |
It made 2million profit due to TV Money. However the empty Stadiums did not do the sport any favours. Hence six years later ........
As a GB fan I want to see us win. Not give the Paddys and Jocks there own teams weakening the side. Its like having a Gaelic Football WC and then giving England a team because they discovered some player had English grandmothers.
RL growing all over Europe well apart from Russia and France the game has made little strides. In the late Eighties France and Russia seemed to be getting somewhere but something has gone wrong. There is an appetite for the game in France but the fact that they lost to the GB reject Team (England) in the Federation Shield is an indication of their ability.
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The whole point in these competitions is to improve the smaller nations. For example Rugby Union (more my sport than League). Italy were a very modest side, but now they can beat any team on their day, thanks to their six nations expreience. Plus, there are plans to accommodate the Argentina side in either the 6 or tri-nations. They are a very good team and are getting better every game they play against bigger opposition. The World Cup in RU also has small nations playing. All the results against the smaller teams are getting tighter as they experience more, but it does not happen over night. Also, look at Bangladesh and Zimbabwe (until politics got in the way) in cricket. They improved thanks to playing the bigger nations more regularly.
For RL to expand it needs a World Cup to allow the smaller nations to improve. It is just like people saying that the smaller nations should have to go through pre-qualifying in football tournaments. No, they should not. The teams are getiing better all the time, and you rarely get the old drubbings you used to get (exceptions Andorra, San Marino, Luxembourg although even these have improved). Look at Macedonia, Latvia, Cyprus, Malta etc. They used to let in 5 or more a game at least. Now, thanks to the experience against bigger and better teams their players, tactics and staff have improved. An RL World Cup every so often is needed so the smaller nations can develop and widen the joy of rugby around the world.
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work in Cas, f**k me that means you have played RL all your life?
Panthers or LL then?
People like you are half the reason the Aussies are the best, Pyscological advantage, Its a f***ing disgrace, This country(when it comes to RL) Barely believes we can beat the Aussies, Its apparently a massive shock when we do, Even though I personally think we can at least match them in every department. |
I played for Scarborough Pirates (Amateur) It was before my time but the club had one season in the League and even managed to lose to Runcorn Highfield which is the lowest of the low. Think Selby has a team so I might play for them now the lads from Cas will be much too tough 
Personally I hope we beat the Aussies next week in Brisbane but the Aussies have never lost at the Suncorp and tbh they have the better players but I would love to be prove wrong.
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The whole point in these competitions is to improve the smaller nations. For example Rugby Union (more my sport than League). Italy were a very modest side, but now they can beat any team on their day, thanks to their six nations expreience. Plus, there are plans to accommodate the Argentina side in either the 6 or tri-nations. They are a very good team and are getting better every game they play against bigger opposition. The World Cup in RU also has small nations playing. All the results against the smaller teams are getting tighter as they experience more, but it does not happen over night. Also, look at Bangladesh and Zimbabwe (until politics got in the way) in cricket. They improved thanks to playing the bigger nations more regularly.
For RL to expand it needs a World Cup to allow the smaller nations to improve. It is just like people saying that the smaller nations should have to go through pre-qualifying in football tournaments. No, they should not. The teams are getiing better all the time, and you rarely get the old drubbings you used to get (exceptions Andorra, San Marino, Luxembourg although even these have improved). Look at Macedonia, Latvia, Cyprus, Malta etc. They used to let in 5 or more a game at least. Now, thanks to the experience against bigger and better teams their players, tactics and staff have improved. An RL World Cup every so often is needed so the smaller nations can develop and widen the joy of rugby around the world. |
I agree but RU Is a much more global game than RL. An Ireland Team in RU is made up of mainly Irishmen not a load of Plastic Englishmen with Irish Great, Great Grandparents. Plus RU is more popular worldwide fact.
Money is an issue and the RL is maybe not as rich as the RU but the last RL World Cup had no supporters in the Stadiums because nobody cared/supported about the nations or the game their nations were playing. I think they just got a load of GB/Aus/NZ rejects and told them to go and play for whoever.
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| People like you are half the reason the Aussies are the best, Pyscological advantage, Its a f***ing disgrace, This country(when it comes to RL) Barely believes we can beat the Aussies, Its apparently a massive shock when we do, Even though I personally think we can at least match them in every department. |
Now you've lost the plot. Nine out of ten times the Aussies could field four teams that would embarrass GB at Fatboy's Fondle...
What makes it worse, is Fatboy's Fondle is dying on its ar*e out here! AFL and Football now get far bigger crowds and since Union went pro the Super 14s Union is where anyone who has even a modicum of talent is now going.
As for NZ, 99% of Kiwis spit on the Fatties Falling over, it is about the All Blacks or nothing. So a small group of renegades ALL plying their trade in Australia or England beat some lads from GB who were too crap at football to get a game. Big feckin wow...
s***e "game", no skill needed, just a big gut and huge ar*e muscles. Get over yourselves FFS.
Now Kabaddi on the other hand...
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Now Kabaddi on the other hand... |
Don't hold your breath  oh hang on a minute
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I can do nothing but laugh at what you have just written there.
I play with a Dutch full international, all of their team is made of full Dutch lads, They love it, The chance to play against good sides as a representation of their country, They have to qualify for the world cup.
What attracts me to rugby is everyones desire and pride in their shirt, Teams can get leathered 50-60/0 every week and still be well up for the next game, I also have the fortune of playing at a pretty decent level with lads who I know, in their time will be pro's, It's good to see them develop but not lose sight of where they are and where they have come from, Unlike most smart ar*e footballers. There is no exclusivity amongst rugby lads, You either one of the team or your out.
Infact the main reason I started playing rugby because the clowns that played for this club at the time didn't want their shirts. It became the saturday choice for me, either come play silly money for a day watching York struggle against Jokers FC, Or go and play rugby.
It wasn't the hardest choice I have ever made.
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Laugh if you want. Glad you enjoy it...I don't, I played in the school team with St John Ellis (he was crap and couldn't tackle to save his life and rarely got a run out) and also played in the London Broncos development side for a year in the 1980s and I am of the opinion, based on personal experience, that it does lack real skills like the ones you find in Union or Football, or Tiddlywinks come to that.
I have yet to come across Thugboy Leek "players" who can pass both ways more than 15 feet (and even then a "pass" in Fattie Fondling would make a girls netball team embarrassed) and as for the kicking game, the "scrummage", knock ons, "play the balls" etc.. UTTER RUBBISH dulled down and simplified for morons.
Enjoy your heart out, but I would NEVER pay to watch a bunch of lardarses playing crap sumo with a peanut... 
The fact that no bugger really plays it outside of West Yorks, Lancs and NSW says it all.
If anything it should be in the Paralymipcs as it requires a significant mental impairment to run headlong at two fat lardarses knowing they'll nail you... It is just a most bizarre pastime for the intellectually challenged.
P.S. What the fark is a "Dutch Full International"? Jamaican Bobsleighs spring to mind?
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Ahhhh you played in the 80's, That must be where your lard ar*e beer gut unfit cant pass opinion comes from. Which school was that you were at?
The kicking game dulled down for morons you say and you say it lacks the skills Union has? The whole of rugby union is based around a f***ing negative kicking game. They're also protesting for uncontested scrums in union citing too much contact as their main reason, This is a game where the forwards have nowhere near as much 1 on 1 contact as the RL forwards.
I play up at waterhead in Oldham and I train with so called 'fatties', Let me tell you, A lot of them can pass 15 ft either way.
The game has changed since you played it old lad. 
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Not really, I am actually right on top of one of the two or three best teams in Australia (St George Illawarra, "The Dragons") and know lads who play with them. I get to watch them train and play and it is crap. And these are the highest standard you can get! I don't do it for fun, we share training facilities with them, that's all.
As for your ridiculous "old boy" bobbins, it is one of the few games I'd be better at now since my girth spread out a bit. If anything from what I've seen, the standard of English Fatboy Fondling has nosedived since the days of Lydon, Gregory, Schofield, Tate, Davies and Handley. Even then that was pretty pi$$ poor anyway.
Here when I have had the misfortune to be near a tele when a game is on, I have to laugh when the commentators call rubbish defence, like missed tackles etc.. "the English way" as in "what is wrong with the Bulldogs tonight, they are playing like an English Super League team" And before you rave about Aussie coming over to play in the ESL, the only ones you get are past their best and are chasing $$$$$s only.
RL is as tragic as Saturday afternoon wrestling, watched by the same old rentamob grannies who are a load old boilers waving their handbags at a bunch of fat useless turds. Call that sport?
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Forum Kabbadi Tuesday night, Oaklands sports centre 7pm. Ł2 each - all welcome.
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| Forum Kabbadi Tuesday night, Oaklands sports centre 7pm. Ł2 each - all welcome. |
Anyone who likes a bit of slap n tickle is welcome.
I think the fact that many Premiership Football Sides have recruited fitness coaches from RL and copied methods is a testament to how highly respected RL is. RL was employing coaching/fitness methods in the 90's that other sports are only just beginning to embrace.
Trouble is now RU is Pro there is more money to be had there. The quality of the NRL is much better than Super League having said that though British Clubs always win the World Challenge (probably because of Home Advantage and it's timing)
RL is best as it is. A local game jusst like Gaelic or Aussie Rules. It can never compete with Unions more global appeal or money.
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A true testament to Rl is that all try scorers in the final when England won the world cup were Ex league players. The RFU have spent rather a large amount of money breeding Andy Faz into an International.
Karl Pryce, not the best rl player has been offered mega bucks in RU. Very very few RU players could make it in league.
Possibly some of the wingers, Josh Lewsey, Thats about it really.
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A true testament to Rl is that all try scorers in the final when England won the world cup were Ex league players. The RFU have spent rather a large amount of money breeding Andy Faz into an International.
Karl Pryce, not the best rl player has been offered mega bucks in RU. Very very few RU players could make it in league.
Possibly some of the wingers, Josh Lewsey, Thats about it really. |
All one of them Billy Whizz was a great player though. I would agree with you about the players RL produces certainly better backs because in RL the kicking game has improved so much. I would say though that having a scrum in RL is a complete waste of time but certainly the forwards in RL have to faster and more skillful.
That is the problem though whereas in the past the likes of Offiah and Dvies would play League now Union has gone Pro, League cannot compete for money.
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