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LA Metros Hockey Player
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| Can whoever the admin is now please re-introduce the posting limit on Lord Winston to stop him filling this forum again with crap. As the regulars can see he has already become a problem in his new posting area and it goes a way to explain why YY was how it is. |
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Lord Winston
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| Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 9:53 am Post subject: Re: Posting limit |
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| Can whoever the admin is now please re-introduce the posting limit on Lord Winston to stop him filling this forum again with crap. As the regulars can see he has already become a problem in his new posting area and it goes a way to explain why YY was how it is. |
And why not also give you a posting limit, you fuel the forum with cr*p as well and you are the one who often starts the arguments.
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Lardmonster
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| Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 10:47 am Post subject: Re: Posting limit |
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| Lord Winston wrote: |
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| Can whoever the admin is now please re-introduce the posting limit on Lord Winston to stop him filling this forum again with crap. As the regulars can see he has already become a problem in his new posting area and it goes a way to explain why YY was how it is. |
And why not also give you a posting limit, you fuel the forum with cr*p as well and you are the one who often starts the arguments.
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You've got a point...  But I'm sure I remember reading there was to be a limit of 2 after the ban was lifted.
Funnily enough I heard the real Robert Winston on Radio 4 this morning, and I had great difficulty taking him seriously.
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Lord Winston
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| Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 10:50 am Post subject: Re: Posting limit |
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| Can whoever the admin is now please re-introduce the posting limit on Lord Winston to stop him filling this forum again with crap. As the regulars can see he has already become a problem in his new posting area and it goes a way to explain why YY was how it is. |
And why not also give you a posting limit, you fuel the forum with cr*p as well and you are the one who often starts the arguments.
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You've got a point... But I'm sure I remember reading there was to be a limit of 2 after the ban was lifted.
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Nah i chose an option to take a long time leave rather than be stuck with the 2 post limit. If it comes to force again i will stick with it, but hopefuly it won't.
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| I think I recall Laurence saying that you still would have a limit, just a couple more posts. |
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| Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 1:11 pm Post subject: |
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| Impose a limit please! |
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Lord Winston
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| Impose a limit please! |
Why not impose others with limits too, fair is fair then 
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If this continues I'll limit myself to zero posts.  |
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TF,
The idea of you being limited by us mods and Laurence was to try and improve your posts. We initially gave you a limit of 4, but you took no notice and we put it down to 2 posts per day. Again you carried on regardless and as a result you had to go off the forum for a while.
Now you are back, I say we impose a post limit of 4 to start you off with, however if they don't improve, you'll be down to 2 again.
I am prepared to give you a chance more than others are, however if you make a hash of your 4 posts I'd have no hesitation in requesting your limit to be lowered.
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LA Metros Hockey Player
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TF,
The idea of you being limited by us mods and Laurence was to try and improve your posts. We initially gave you a limit of 4, but you took no notice and we put it down to 2 posts per day. Again you carried on regardless and as a result you had to go off the forum for a while.
Now you are back, I say we impose a post limit of 4 to start you off with, however if they don't improve, you'll be down to 2 again.
I am prepared to give you a chance more than others are, however if you make a hash of your 4 posts I'd have no hesitation in requesting your limit to be lowered. |
..and you can be his mentor 
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Lord Winston
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TF,
The idea of you being limited by us mods and Laurence was to try and improve your posts. We initially gave you a limit of 4, but you took no notice and we put it down to 2 posts per day. Again you carried on regardless and as a result you had to go off the forum for a while.
Now you are back, I say we impose a post limit of 4 to start you off with, however if they don't improve, you'll be down to 2 again.
I am prepared to give you a chance more than others are, however if you make a hash of your 4 posts I'd have no hesitation in requesting your limit to be lowered. |
..and you can be his mentor
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I had one of those in year 10 and year 11, because my organisation skills were poor
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I think I might ask to become a moderator again!
2 posts a day is definitely 3 too many! |
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Just keep LW out of City Chat and i really don't care otherwise.
CC will end up with loads of drivel if he is allowed to post there continuously. It's already going downhill.
Maybe Laurence / whoever is admin now, it would be a good idea to re - implement the limit and also keep him to YY to keep the forum at a reasonable standard.
This isn't anything personal LW, just that you have a tendancy to post too much / about crap. |
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Lardmonster
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| Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2005 8:28 am Post subject: |
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| Maybe Laurence / whoever is admin now, it would be a good idea to re - implement the limit and also keep him to YY to keep the forum at a reasonable standard. |
I'm sort-of caretaking the forum admin at the moment, but Laurence - thank goodness - is still organising the non-forum website content.
As far as I'm aware, there's no way of enforcing post limits apart from telling them "maximum 4 posts per day or else".
And whatever the limit, it's never going to be completely satisfactory. What if something significant happens, like (say) a 4-1 win? If people have something on-topic and insightful to say, any post limit works against us all.
Until I realise it's fruitless, I hope that a little gentle cajoling and reasoning will reduce the amount of dross postings. Hope I don't have to impose - and police - any limits.
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Lord Winston
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Why haven't people ever mentioned Dicko.35 who can't spell and string a sentance together, Yorkcity69 who constantly lies about idendity and Herman who will post a one line message saying "im off to get a cup of tea", i think im just everyones punch bag and im not happy 
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I don't think limitation is the answer as what's the point of allowing four posts per day if they're all crap?
Surely someone is either good enough to post on here or they aren't.
My biggest issue with this situation is the squabbling which goes on amongst a few of the ex-YY posters who are now on here (You know who you are) and seems to permeate every thread where one of them contributes.
Also the one line comment written in unintelligible English and wrongly spelt at that.
It's not just Lord Winston, and to be fair to him he doesn't come into the category described in the last sentence, but where he falls down is continually rising to the bait and never letting things go.
On a forum like this make your point once, not ten times and don't turn threads into a slagging match.
And if that fails, Lardmonster, can I suggest you forget about limitation and impose elimination instead. |
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I think bullying is the downfall of the forum, not my posts but bullying and bickering with one another 
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| Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2005 9:22 am Post subject: |
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I don't think limitation is the answer as what's the point of allowing four posts per day if they're all crap?
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The idea is it means he has to use them more wisely and think about what hes posting. Well thats the idea.
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This forum is pathetic.
Get rid of these sh*theads and maybe some of the people you have lost will come back.
However, ain't gonna happen is it? |
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This forum is pathetic.
Get rid of these sh*theads and maybe some of the people you have lost will come back.
However, ain't gonna happen is it? |
Hello Guest,
Your post saddens me, especially as you've been a prolific poster here for some time. Why post as a guest user?
I disagree with your post for two reasons:
1. these people are not "sh*theads" because they post rubbish occasionally. We've all done that
2. some of the people lost have indicated that they'll not come back, whatever happens. (Including you, when I've spoken to you in person)
I do hope you change your mind. There's no reason why the two fora can't happily coexist, and no reason why the standard of discussion here can't improve.
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Lardmonster,
You know as well as I do that while the Metros and Winstons of this world are allowed to dominate here, then this is no more than a silly children's forum which few people want to be associated with.
That is the sad truth.
Is there any wonder that people walk away when you log in simply to see every single category on the main page saying "Last Post by LA Metros Hockey Player" or "Lord Winston" or some other prat? As soon as you see that, you log off.
I appreciate the work you put in but until this problem is sorted out (and how long has it been now? 2 years? And still nothing done?!?) then you are wasting your valuable time. |
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You know as well as I do that while the Metros and Winstons of this world are allowed to dominate here, then this is no more than a silly children's forum which few people want to be associated with.
That is the sad truth.
Is there any wonder that people walk away when you log in simply to see every single category on the main page saying "Last Post by LA Metros Hockey Player" or "Lord Winston" or some other prat? As soon as you see that, you log off.
I appreciate the work you put in but until this problem is sorted out (and how long has it been now? 2 years? And still nothing done?!?) then you are wasting your valuable time. |
Again, I must disagree on nearly everything.
This is neither "silly" nor a "children's" forum. Just a victim of its popularity perhaps?
And enforcing a "no prats" rule would be a very difficult and subjective thing to do, without having an "invitation-only" forum. (Leaving us open to criticism of being a clique)
I have spoken privately to both LA Metros and Winston about their styles of posting, and hope that a non-confrontational approach will tame their enthusiasm for posting a little.
And since you're still monitoring the content of Red&Blue, I hope you too see an improvement in the coming weeks.
The Red&Blue ship needs to be turned around and there are two ways of doing it: taking sharp punitive action or using gentle persuasion. I'd worry about nasty side-effects from the former.
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| Is there any wonder that people walk away when you log in simply to see every single category on the main page saying "Last Post by LA Metros Hockey Player" or "Lord Winston" or some other prat? As soon as you see that, you log off. |
While not the same - I had a very similiar feeling when certain "well respected" forum members replied to every viewable message on City Chat at early hours of the morning.
It made you just walk away laughing - and those posts did even less for Red & Blue than Lord Winston.
Although I agree that a posting limit was supposed to work - it hasn't - and there is a time to be consigned to certain forums for certain people.
But while I believe City Chat should be open to everyone - there should also be an "old chaps" forum - open to only those over the age of 18 where they can also be assigned to - as lets be honest - those lads that like a beer need a place to rant randomly - as do the young chaps.
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| While not the same - I had a very similiar feeling when certain "well respected" forum members replied to every viewable message on City Chat at early hours of the morning. |
You're right - it's not the same. When 2 people are online then of course it will show they have replied to these messages - at 2pm in the afternoon when there are 20 online it shows a much more worrying trend.
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I don't see why - I have always enjoyed Daley Mayall's contributions as well as those of other late night posters. You can hardly compare them.
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And as a result a number of people have disappeared. But I suppose the best thing to do is to ignore the problem of "Lord Winston" and others and simply blame the people who have now gone for all the woes of Red & Blue - after all, they aren't here to answer back anymore and we can all feel good about ourselves!
Nothing here has changed.
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Lardmonster
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| Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2005 8:27 am Post subject: |
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| It made you just walk away laughing - and those posts did even less for Red & Blue than Lord Winston. |
I don't see why - I have always enjoyed Daley Mayall's contributions as well as those of other late night posters. You can hardly compare them.
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I'm obviously not privvy to what goes on in Richard's head, but I somehow don't think it was Daley who he had in mind
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But I suppose the best thing to do is to ignore the problem of "Lord Winston" and others and simply blame the people who have now gone for all the woes of Red & Blue - after all, they aren't here to answer back anymore and we can all feel good about ourselves!
Nothing here has changed. |
Ah, but they are here to answer back, aren't they?
I'm amazed by the number of flames I've been getting personally for the state of this forum. I personally believe it's been blown out of all proportion by a few folks who have a grudge against the likes of Winston and Metros. I'm receiving criticism on one hand about censoring debate, and on the other hand of not being strict enough.
I'd dearly like to know what you'd do about it though. I've tried and failed. Perhaps I was being too nice, too naive, too politically correct in thinking I could change things.
With respect to the Winston / Metros problem: I don't think their recent posting habits have been particularly outstanding either way, and certainly no worse than other former-young-yorkies who have crept into City Chat.
The two things that surprise me most, though are:
1. that Laurence lasted so long
2. that people have left the forum for somewhere else, return only to slag the place off, without ever taking a moment to thank Laurence for his time, effort and money in keeping the place going while this was "the place to be"
If Red&Blue does close, perhaps you'll change your tune. The cosy clique of The Other Place will end when those posters you dislike so much need to find somewhere else online to frequent.
I sincerly hope the admin of The Other Place copes with the problem better than I did, and receives less aggro too. But I've discovered what a difficult, time-consuming and thankless job this admin lark is, and life's too short.
PS: to anyone thinking of PM'ing me to ask for a URL for The Other Place - don't bother.
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| I'm amazed by the number of flames I've been getting personally for the state of this forum. |
Who from? And why do you feel it's your responsibility?
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I would be far more liberal with the delete button, and either impose limits on the amount of crap posted, or get rid of the crap posters altogether. I can't see why this is seen as being difficult - either you have the ability to moderate or you don't. And you do.
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| 2. that people have left the forum for somewhere else, return only to slag the place off, without ever taking a moment to thank Laurence for his time, effort and money in keeping the place going while this was "the place to be" |
How many times do you have to say it? Every month? Every week? Every day? You can only be so grateful.
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| If Red&Blue does close, perhaps you'll change your tune. The cosy clique of The Other Place will end when those posters you dislike so much need to find somewhere else online to frequent. |
But fortunately it won't be on the other forum, that's for sure.
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| I sincerly hope the admin of The Other Place copes with the problem better than I did, and receives less aggro too. |
They don't have any moderating to do because pillocks are denied access. Perhaps lessons should be learned from this?
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| I'm amazed by the number of flames I've been getting personally for the state of this forum. |
Who from? And why do you feel it's your responsibility?
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My responsibility since taking over the admin in a caretaker role. But hopefully for not much longer.
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| I'd dearly like to know what you'd do about it though. I've tried and failed. |
I would be far more liberal with the delete button, and either impose limits on the amount of crap posted, or get rid of the crap posters altogether. I can't see why this is seen as being difficult - either you have the ability to moderate or you don't. And you do.
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Yes, I can moderate in the sense that I have the capability to do it. There's a "Delete" and "Edit" button next to each post on this forum.
But I don't know how to moderate effectively. It's the old problem of trying to please all the people, all the time. And when it's not possible, the criticisms start flooding in, teddies get thrown out of prams, people make grand gestures and leave with a flourish.
I'm not going to rise to it any more, not going to worry about poeple leaving. See-ya, bye!
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How many times do you have to say it? Every month? Every week? Every day? You can only be so grateful.
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True, but many people have just taken the forum for granted, never sparing a thought for the people who try to make this a nicer place. When I signed up for Red&Blue, I don't remember reading the notice that said "The administrator and moderators will pander to your every whim. They'll be at your beck and call, and will ensure that anyone you don't agree with or don't like is silenced permanently". But that's what some folks are starting to expect.
There have been posts from people who have apparently left. How many have you seen saying "So long and thanks for everything. It's time I moved on. All the best"? How many saying "Red&Blue is a sh*thole and is run by tossers"?
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But fortunately it won't be on the other forum, that's for sure.
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They don't have any moderating to do because pillocks are denied access. Perhaps lessons should be learned from this?
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Well that all depends on how you identify the pillocks. Are they folks who post endlessly in every thread they can find? Or those who post while pissed? Those that bully other forum members? Those who accuse the administrator of being a paedo? Those whose views are different to the views of the old, wise, respected regulars? Or those that are deemed too young to hold any views worth listening to?
Trust me: moderation is necessary on every forum, some more than others. I'd guess that the amount of moderation is dependent on the number of users, so don't be surprised that a forum with 4238 users needs more moderation than one with 85.
I'm not trying to be deliberately argumentative. Ideally, I'd like to continue helping out here at Red&Blue, but I'm struggling to understand how best to do it. Only human, and all that.
Thanks - you're helping me get things straight in my head...
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| My responsibility since taking over the admin in a caretaker role. But hopefully for not much longer. |
But who has been getting at you? Why on earth would they?
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It is fairly obvious to everyone that any post by people like the ones who began this thread should be deleted in Chat City and General Chat, for example. Of course there is a delicate balance but moderators who throw thier teddies out are as guilty as anyone surely?
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| True, but many people have just taken the forum for granted, never sparing a thought for the people who try to make this a nicer place. When I signed up for Red&Blue, I don't remember reading the notice that said "The administrator and moderators will pander to your every whim. They'll be at your beck and call, and will ensure that anyone you don't agree with or don't like is silenced permanently". But that's what some folks are starting to expect. |
And I certainly don't remember the notice that said "Kids with no brains will be allowed to dominate everything and nothing will be done about it and if you don't like it shut up".
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| There have been posts from people who have apparently left. How many have you seen saying "So long and thanks for everything. It's time I moved on. All the best"? How many saying "Red&Blue is a sh*thole and is run by tossers"? |
Perhaps you might find that some people are quite hurt by the way Red & Blue has been allowed to go from hero to zero. And hurt people tend not to be the most generous with false praise.
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| Well that all depends on how you identify the pillocks. Are they folks who post endlessly in every thread they can find? Or those who post while pissed? Those that bully other forum members? Those who accuse the administrator of being a paedo? |
It's always the same individual you mention, which is a shame. Because it tends to suggest that you don't really understand the problem in the first place. The problem is not people who post things that abusive and instantly moved or deleted, because those posts disappear within minutes usually. The problem is persistent offenders in the "post count race".
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Well I hope you come to the right conclusion, because if you walk away from here you may end up being made to shoulder the blame for it all by the next person who jumps onto the high horse of apportionment.
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I seriously think it is necessary to get rid of the post count. I reckon it would cut down on alot of the bullcrap.
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| It is fairly obvious to everyone that any post by people like the ones who began this thread should be deleted in Chat City and General Chat, for example. Of course there is a delicate balance but moderators who throw thier teddies out are as guilty as anyone surely? |
Yes, posts like the ones at the top of the thread should be deleted. But they weren't, for whatever reason.
And I don't know where you're going with the "moderators teddies" comment. I'm quite happy with people understanding that I'm sick of spending time tidying up after people here, trying to calm folks down after they get their knickers in a twist. And that's before fending off tools like Batchelor.
Who wouldn't get fed up after a while?
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| True, but many people have just taken the forum for granted, never sparing a thought for the people who try to make this a nicer place. When I signed up for Red&Blue, I don't remember reading the notice that said "The administrator and moderators will pander to your every whim. They'll be at your beck and call, and will ensure that anyone you don't agree with or don't like is silenced permanently". But that's what some folks are starting to expect. |
And I certainly don't remember the notice that said "Kids with no brains will be allowed to dominate everything and nothing will be done about it and if you don't like it shut up".
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I don't remember seeing kids dominate. Looking purely at the quality of the posts, rather than the age of the poster, they're truly not that bad.
Yep, there are many posts that are waste-of-time one-liners, but you'd struggle to find a forum user who hasn't made posts that really should be PMs.
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| There have been posts from people who have apparently left. How many have you seen saying "So long and thanks for everything. It's time I moved on. All the best"? How many saying "Red&Blue is a sh*thole and is run by tossers"? |
Perhaps you might find that some people are quite hurt by the way Red & Blue has been allowed to go from hero to zero. And hurt people tend not to be the most generous with false praise.
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True. But if they don't like the place, then why return to stir the sh*t?
By way of an example: I tried the confguide forum, didn't like it and didn't return. I looked at the BBC's 606 website a few times, got fed up with it and haven't been back.
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| Well that all depends on how you identify the pillocks. Are they folks who post endlessly in every thread they can find? Or those who post while pissed? Those that bully other forum members? Those who accuse the administrator of being a paedo? |
It's always the same individual you mention, which is a shame. Because it tends to suggest that you don't really understand the problem in the first place. The problem is not people who post things that abusive and instantly moved or deleted, because those posts disappear within minutes usually. The problem is persistent offenders in the "post count race".
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Maybe you're right, I don't understand the problem. That there are posts that are abusive is a problem, because someone has to clean up the mess.
If you were to look at the membership list (link) and sort the list by "post count decending", you'll see the 50 top posters here. (Add AcombDave to make 51). I can't see many di**heads there, certainly not anywhere near the top of the list.
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| Thanks - you're helping me get things straight in my head... |
Well I hope you come to the right conclusion, because if you walk away from here you may end up being made to shoulder the blame for it all by the next person who jumps onto the high horse of apportionment.
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Honestly not bothered if people blame me for the current state of Red&Blue. I'm happy to say I tried to set things straight, tried to find compromises.
The only true disappointment for me is that I've lost mates in the process.
Back to work, I reckon...
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